But thats just some of the ammo on Team Patricias battleship. The obvious, if moot, response to this is to observe that her conviction wasnt based on inaccurate documentaries but on trial. Patricia Kopta Had Been Missing Since 1992. She Was Found in Its perfectly understandable that one should feel sorry for the victims of this heinous crime. They are total bs. Go somewhere else where your asserted expertise will be professionally tested and you wont be so frustrated and insulting about those who disagree (with your expertise and opinion). Judges may have the discretion to reduce a felony in a wobbler case to a misdemeanor. DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. The missing hairs probably got destroyed in testing.. thats how they test them.. and reports are wrong all the time. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. There is way too much doubt in this case for my comfort. Marcelin said the detectives, referring to Patricia Wright, asked, Dont you want that [expletive] off the street?. Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. Theres speculation and theres lies period. Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. He had an attractive new wife and beautiful baby boy. She hadn't lived long enough.". Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. An infant was lying face down on her stomach. Also why if beaten with a gun or with whatever, why was there no blood on the clothing? They need to test that hair from Joanns hand and also that broken fingernail. Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. If I knew I was going to get caught, I never would have brought you into this world, the arresting officers testified they heard her say to Nicole. Patricia Owens, Patricia Kopta left behind a husband and siblings and meandered through northern Puerto Rico for a while before she was taken as a person in need to the adult He was captured in August and is in state custody. Her sister stated shed had a religious obsession since she was a child. Re Routier, the claim that she inflicted a potentially fatal injury on herself by no means indicates another perp: she could have inflicted it in ignorance, as a suicide attempt, or in a semi-psychotic state. The couple was not allowed to have contact during court proceedings. Both wanted to be doctors. Lie detectors are pseudo science. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. The phone wire was located at the opposite end of the basement, which was dark. in journalism from the University of Southern California. And because some of Patricias advocates have suggested Andrew Katrinak had a motive for murder, I checked into whether he had a life insurance payout to gain upon Joanns demise. I dont understand Partricias defenders pointing to Andrew with the dyed blond hair found at the car and murder scene. Gail Gattrell, the sisters great-aunt, described the deaths as an honor killing which are often carried about by a relative who believes a woman went against conservative Islamic values on love or marriage. RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. (A good point. Joanne wouldnt have fought back as she was shot therefore almost immediately incapacitating her and was holding her son. Yet, you have a story like Darlie Rutier who supposedly stabbed herself seriously enough that was centimeters from her carotid artery, yet this woman is in prison still? Watch Wrong Man season 2, and then come back and make comment. If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. Narcissistic and violent tendencies are very common. Have you read the book? Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. Great catch. Why not question some of this evidence? I think we need to realize that each dollar we spend or don't spend could have a serious impact on our society and our safety.". Pal stays true. Mr Freeman, Why are youre rude about others who disagree with your OPINION (including jury and appeal judges)? Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. Patricia Rorrer was a cold woman. How about the two eyewitnesses that identified her alive days after her disappearance. WebTexas-born Patricia (Tissie) Said, the mother of the two girls, should long ago have been charged as an accomplice in their honor killing. More than 20 years after her conviction, Patricia Rorrer still has advocates working to exonerate her. On a secret recording, Patricia asked Jarrett to vouch for her attendance or she might go to the electric char. What has that to do with the point youre trying to make? After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? More hairs there. On June 14, 1989, Patricia Wright and her 7-year-old son, Alfey, were riding in a car driven by family friend Lawrence Slaughter. According to Kohlhepp, the RTPD obtained Patricia Koptas DNA sample, then obtained one from her sister and a nephew. Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. Browns action to grant clemency was rescinded after discovering that Patricia Wright had two prior felonies from when her son stole two 99-cent toys and a hand towel from an open house 15 years earlier. I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. Im dying. Her husband, Mark McCloskey, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor fourth degree assault and was fined $750. He jumped at the opportunity with the understanding that the emphasis would be on Lawrence Slaughter and not his sister. Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. A Texas father one of the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives wanted for the slayings of his two teen daughters was busted after more than 12 years on the run, the federal law enforcement agency announced. Further, an early FBI report said the hairs found in the car had no roots which contain the DNA suggesting an evidence switcheroo. I made the confession on tape that I had rehearsed with the LAPD, said Larry Wright. At the trial, prosecutor Michael McIntyre alleged that Patricia remained obsessed with Andrew Katrinak long after their breakup despite testimony that shed had many boyfriends and live-in lovers to occupy her bandwidth. Thats not proof theyre right but its more likely that you as one person are wrong. Especially mice! Id wanna be done with that shite quick too.. meh what do I know! She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! . Patricia Prue had been planning to use an insanity defense if the case were to go to trial, but she asked the court in December if she could change her plea so she could begin corresponding with her husband once again. A Dallas jury unanimously found Yaser Said guilty of killing his two teen daughters on Tuesday. She never had anyone testify against her but an ex-boyfriend! Prosecutors did not seek the death penalty, so Said was automatically sentenced to life in prison with no parole. Walmart woe. It was her father, Yaser Said who committed the crime of killing his two innocent teen daughters. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. This woman was obsessed and jealous. You are absolutely right. This article can also be seen at crimereport.com. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. The Irish-Italian girl had full, fluffy dark hair, olive skin, and a pretty face. We can help by getting the word out, by bringing a lot more support to a case that is so insanely bizarre, said Geri Silva. Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. "This was not a sudden or impetuous act on your part. The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. She was the one that left Andy! The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. Patricia Rorrer: An Update According to Marsicovetere, state programs should be focused on intervening to help those with mental illnesses at the earliest point possible. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. Thank you and well said. However, that first theory very neatly allows the cops to further theorise that the gun she once owned (which had a history of jamming after the first shot) was the one used at the murder. I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. Amina Said Mother Patricia Owens Said Charged With Patricia Kopta eventually developed dementia, police said. Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis couple that infamously pointed guns at demonstrators who were marching past their house last summer, have pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges in the incident. The case was eventually abandoned. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? Combination locks. The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. I thought the justice system in my state and the people were narrow-minded and corrupt. And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? Lets stop pretending we can definitively prove this woman murdered this woman and her child. I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, in a letter to Patricia. You are correct the bodies were not there all that time, and it seems odd that they baby taken at 3 month, but when found he was 6 months according to Wrong Man. Alfey went on to say that he noticed that the woman hosting the model home was following them very closely the whole time that they were there. neither her nor there couldnt be linked to her. For goodness sake, it was never proved at her trial she used the gun the police so steadfastly offered as evidence or for that matter, ANY OTHER GUN. I want to know why no one has answered this question: if there was no root found on the hair clutched in Joanns hand how was the lab able to produce all those results that could not have been found without roots??? The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with both girls in the week before their killings because she was in great fear of her life, police said. I didnt read anything in this article that convinced me I didnt like that the lab had a bad rep and I do agree the police lie and frame people sometimes so I cant say 100% she did it or not. Thats my life.. Not normal folks obsessed ones do. They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. You murdered your girls," she said. And James Pfeiffer and Jim Burke have remained on her side. Patricia and Mark McCloskey, the St. Louis homeowners who pointed guns at protesters, pleaded not guilty Wednesday to weapons and evidence tampering charges. who pointed guns at protesters plead